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You're all idiots, and if this NTSB report is ...

2011-04-16T10:26:45.760-10:00

You're all idiots, and if this NTSB report is true (which I doubt) so is the pilot for attempting to continue normal flight while operating on backup systems alone. There is NO QUESTION that plane should have landed IMMEDIATELY with such significant command and control problems. That the pilot did not do so is beyond comprehension - it would be reckless endangerment to continue flight in such conditions. I seriously doubt this reports veracity - no one entrusted command of a 757 would make such an egregious error of judgment.

I was on an AA 757 flight from JFK to LAX on Aug 1...

2008-12-15T23:50:00.000-10:00

I was on an AA 757 flight from JFK to LAX on Aug 19, 2008. The pilot turned the plane on and the plane went totally dead, he tried again and again and said we had to get rid of the APU unit, they turned the plane on again. It still failed. At this time I left the plane. Anyways, the flight was later canceled.

I wonder if that was the same plane.

Last Thursday evening, during some significant tur...

2008-12-15T08:24:00.000-10:00

Last Thursday evening, during some significant turbulence that caused our plane to abandon its attempt to land at Newark (CO 1880, 11-Dec), I was sitting next to someone who was on AA 268.

Once we were out of the heavy chop and safely diverted to Baltimore, she told me about her experience on that flight, by way of an explanation for her near freakout during the landing we probably shouldn't have attempted.

Her admittedly non-expert opinion was that the flight crew understated the problem when they told the passengers. After reading about it in the paper she was convinced it was pilot error.

From the information given here, I'd say these two...

2008-11-26T16:02:00.000-10:00

From the information given here, I'd say these two pilots should be fired and so should the mechanic they talked to on the radio.

Sometimes the ones who push it the farthest and manage to somehow get back from the brink are viewed as heroes. Really, they are dangerous.

By continuing with a system failure that lead to multiple failures of redundant systems, they exposed their passengers to an unacceptable risk that nearly resulted in a hull loss.

toots said,

"What would have happened if th...

2008-11-02T03:01:00.000-10:00

toots said,

"What would have happened if the Captain decided to land as soon as possible and went into a thick overcast cloud bank right when his battery quit on him? 30 minutes is not enough time to do the checklist, find a suitable airport, figure out how to navigate to that airport without navigational aids, and get the airplane on the ground. The airplane would likely crash if he fly thru clouds with no battery power. The pilot was most likely looking for a place to land that had no clouds"

Who is the one second guessing now? You have no idea what was going on in the mind of the pilot.

toots,

what pray tell are your qualificatio...

2008-11-02T02:53:00.000-10:00

toots,

what pray tell are your qualifications?

The PIC put everyone on that A/C in jeopardy.

I don't care what tech says, ultimately it is the PICs decision and s/he exercised extremely poor judgement in this case.

All of you second guessers are not even remotely q...

2008-10-28T10:16:00.000-10:00

All of you second guessers are not even remotely qualified to comment on this incident. I love to see JOE THE PLUMBER types pretend they know what happened and what the Captain should have done.

What would have happened if the Captain decided to land as soon as possible and went into a thick overcast cloud bank right when his battery quit on him? 30 minutes is not enough time to do the checklist, find a suitable airport, figure out how to navigate to that airport without navigational aids, and get the airplane on the ground. The airplane would likely crash if he fly thru clouds with no battery power. The pilot was most likely looking for a place to land that had no clouds. I have often times seen it where the entire Midwest is overcast with clouds.

Give the pilot some credit here and quit trying to second guess something about which you are completely uneducated about. It makes you all look very foolish.

Obviously was not a mistake, as I saw the plane si...

2008-10-27T06:50:00.000-10:00

Obviously was not a mistake, as I saw the plane sitting off the runway at Ohare on that day. don't care what the database says. Plenty of pictures around of it sitting there also.

Same comment as other poster from me, what would make them think they can keep the flight going on battery when it clearly says it only lasts 30 minutes. Kudos to crew for getting the plane on ground safely, but they put themselves and the passengers in that sitsuation.

Well, said:
We can anticipate that the final re...

2008-10-26T09:50:00.000-10:00

Well, said:
We can anticipate that the final report from the NTSB will surely include a thorough review of the in-flight procedures entailed in this event; nevertheless, the crew avoided what could have been a catastrophic ending to the flight.

I hope that the passengers who may have been 'inconvenienced' by the diversion appreciate this fact.
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Leasons to learn, and thanks for a safety outcome.

Retired AA Safety Manager

while it may have been heroic to have landed a pla...

2008-10-25T14:02:00.000-10:00

while it may have been heroic to have landed a plane with all those electrical failures, it should never have ocurred in the first place, they should have landed the plane immediately after switching to battery power; the manual said the battery would power systems for30 minutes, instead they tried to fly the across the country on battery power.

Come on guys, this must be a mistake says American...

2008-10-25T02:12:00.000-10:00

Come on guys, this must be a mistake says American and the FAA.

According to the FAA's Service Difficulty Reporting System (SDRs)there are no filings for this American 757 Registration N197AN except for a couple of light bulbs burned out on Sept 1.

Source; FAA SDR Query database > Link > http://av-info.faa.gov/sdrx/Query.aspx Enter AALA and date fields.

John King (FAA mechanic Lic 1552888)
e-mail john.king19@comcast.net